Reports from breakout sessions II

Board Room

Short and Long term

wasn't able to capture the distinction during the presentation between long and short

  • enumerating/characterizing gaz requirements
  • footprints
  • ontology
  • taxonomy of users and requirements (use cases)
  • basic elements/mindsets of gazetteer
  • taxonomy of gazetteers
  • psych research on human categorization - cross-cultural, cross-lingual, political (medium)
  • community repositories and wikis
  • multilinguality (short term?)

Funding agencies

  • research will lead to useful applications (geo-ir, location-bases sservices)
  • where tdo gazs and other technologies work together

Standards and protocols

  • future TBD based on use case analyses
  • trust and provenance (structure used and tradecraft)

strengthening momentum

  • community tool repository and wiki
  • charettes - focused sessions involving designers and users
    • look at a use case, work through it, how to analyze, what possible solutions
    • actually work it out in some level of detail
  • conferences
    • COSIT
    • UN conference on standardization of geonames (August 2007)

Hunt Room

Long-term research agenda

  • Clarifying role of gazetteers and knowledge organization systems
  • Vision, evolutionary direction
  • "Global Description Service" (universality)
  • Methodology for data acquistion
  • Concept strata
  • Scale-dependent behaviors of functionalities
    • DNS-like model might be operated on a scale
  • Liability issues and IPR if wiki contexts are engaged

Short-term research agenda

  • Interoperability
    • test environs for
  • show industrial benefit
  • use cases (collaborative devleopment models for)
  • forum for ...
  • definition of microformats
  • implementation of existing OGC gaz specs
  • sustainability of gaz patents and related GI

What to say to funding agencies

  • "organize your knowledge"
  • get the right people working together (interdisciplinary)
  • add teh "where" to the "what"
  • build an infra for long-term big science
  • avoid teh digital earth winter
  • workshops for defining new agenda for gaz
  • argue gaz as enabling technology for ... further knowledge organization etc.

Future of gazetteer standards and protocols

  • local protocol-free forms - freedom at local level is important - free forms for local knowledge leading to web-specified interfaces
  • analysis of existing and emerging stds that lead to def. or articulation points amongth them - what are the common elements
  • how can gaz's ....
  • ISO blueprints for gaz expansion of scope

momentum-building activities

  • forum for discusion and excahgnge
  • interop experiments involving alternative local designs
  • opengaz.org, .net, opengazetteer.org, .net - already names created
  • gaz. tracks in geospatial and library conferences (and other professional conferences)
  • build professional credential processes

misc

  • public or private sector custody of gaz content?
  • to funders (reprise)
    • 3 cases
      • 1. important
      • 2. tractable
      • 3. not trivial
    • US law on GI patents largely in case law

Carriage Room

1. What are priority topics for long-term basic research?

  • spatial natural language is vague; how to automate understanding of it, including the role of context
    • engage people in natural language processing area
    • looking beyond the word level to ambiguous meanings
    • tools and algorithms for parsing and extracting semantic relationships
    • bounding and processing spatial phrases - moving beyond entity identifications
  • the nature of footprints
    • fundamental geometric issues (accuracy) - what is appropriate to reference, and how
    • how defined
    • how deal with topologically referenced footprints
  • support for multilinguality
    • user languages - multilingual gazetteers - multilingual access to geographic data or data leveraged via language
    • this is a problem of 2 parts
      • alternate names and spellings
      • scripts and transliterations
  • time
  • data acquisition and integration
  • how to enrich the gazetteer, esp. the type thesaurus (the knowledge organization structure) so we can capture and related to other types of information, including relationships and object-intrinsic properties (e.g., county objects and attributes for recording their area)

2. What are priority topics for short-term research?

  • getting real gazetteers for real people to do real things with
  • aggregating search results from multiple gazetteers - methods
  • real specific use cases, tied to test cases
  • what is purpose specific and what is generic - most discussion today has been purpose-specific
    • how do we get to the generic? - better answered from experience
  • inventory of exisitng gazetteers in computer accesible form
    • purpose
    • content
    • is there limited overlap
    • we don't understand what's there
  • conference idea: real-life examples of gazetteer use
    • here's what we're doing
    • problems /solution
    • here are the gazetteres we're hitting (real data)
    • objective: are there common tasks and methods - what are they - core functional requirements of gazetteer services(?)
  • creation of gazetteers
    • cheaper ways to populate gazetteers
    • obsolesence
  • tools
  • fundamentals, both on data and interface sides, are not jelled
    • need to find common ground where both public and private sector interests intersect
    • lots of beneficiaries
  • community-based, social models for data acquisitiion and refinement
  • low-hanging fruit: produce gazetteer entries easily out of existing GIS data that already exists - as long as those records have a name
    • what are the principles for storing data in multiple ways - what are the boundaries there?

3. What do we need to say to the funding agencies?

  • government
  • research
  • commercial
  • incentives more consistent for getting behaviors than policies
  • assumption is this will be paid for by government?
  • what are ways to make these things worthwhile to get them paid for in other ways than govt funding
  • motivation in terms of major beneficiaries
  • major emphasis: what is the point of doing this - what are likely benefits
  • there is a public requirement for efficient access to geographically referenced information
    • this spans commercial, academic and governmental interests
  • long-term engagement is needed
  • deliverables to private sector need to engage and fuel them for further dialog

4. What is the future of gazetteer standards, protocols?

  • why we need those standards? geographic information retrieval systems on the web capable of recognizing these names
    • how will this information be maintained
  • rephrase question: what will drive the adoption of gazetteer standards and protocols?
    • there's a strong motivation for something common to emerge
      • interoperability
      • an all-knowning future thing
    • emergence of a dominating gazetteer database that everybody wants to use - critical mass is essential
      • but how do you keep it current
    • a model: used book sellers who advertise their books on about 3 websites
    • another: sabre and the other one
    • microprocessor world for getting specs out

5. What activities would continue and strengthen the momentum of this meeting, help to build an effective research community?

  • funding
  • charges for working groups
    • surely there are small consortia within this community that would be interested in doing useful things
  • figure out who cares about these activities and why do they care?
    • business/mission/use cases will flow from these
    • grounding this work in real examples is important
  • an effective research community (a bit more inclusive) requires deliverables that are clear, marketable and palateable to those organizations/communities that we want to be part of this
    • a SIG?
    • more frequent meetings?
  • focus on finding a common purpose: a gazetteer that we could all benefit from
    • is the common ground closer to the data or the techniques and approaches
      • try to find a common data set - a killer gazetteer
  • google earth (and the like) is perceived by a large and growing number of people (decision makers) as the earth reference system for information retrieval
    • involvement of google and the like, or use of the interface, would help
    • identify their agenda and peer with them